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Avoiding Tickets

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Avoiding Tickets

I’ve driven since 1991 and only got 4 speeding tickets. Three were from radar and the other one was laser (lidar). That’s a great record. I’ve seen people get 3 tickets in a single year. My dad has got 3-4 x the amount of tickets in the same period (but also drives as much as 3x more).

#1 Get a Radar Detector. I’ve invested $1,500 in Radar Detectors. I’m on my 3rd one. I would have only had two but one was stolen and I replaced it only to have the police return it (haha) a year or so later when it turned up stolen. My first detector was a Bell. It had a lot of false alarms. I returned it and got a second Bell but it also had a lot of problems. Eventually I upgraded to a Valentine One. It was $500 but in the last 11 years+ it’s saved me at least 200 times. If I ever did get 200 tickets I’d be done driving but 200 times the cop checked my speed and it was under because the radar detector had enough warning. I’ve been ticket free since 2005. I almost got one in 2007 but they decided to stick me with something else instead. There are two good radar detectors out there. Valentine 1 is, I believe, still the only one that shows you how many radar hits, is programable, and shows you arrows letting you know if it’s coming ahead, behind, or to the side of you. The other one just has “BEEP” which doesn’t tell you much. That just says it’s either a cop coming up behind you, or ahead of you. That’s why I recommend the V1. The V1 also lets you upgrade to a full new unit for $200. You just enter your serial and they tell you what upgrades will offer. Years back I mailed back my unit and they sent me a whole new upgraded one that is smaller and did more. Now they even offer more things since the last time I’ve done that.

Radar Research – I used to keep up with this all the time but I haven’t in years. If anything has changed or needs to be added, let me know.

Radar Bands

There’s 3 you need to learn.

X-Band – That is the ancient band that was used in the 60s/70s/80s? Only one time in my life have  I seen a real cop use it. That is typically the alarms, store doors, and other things that are not a real “hit.” So the V1 lets me program it to turn that off. I never hear x band hits. While other detectors make you listen to that beep shit on them all the time.

K-Band – K Band is the one that many cops use. But now also many stores, alarms and who  knows what also use it. So it’s hard sometimes to tell if it’s real or not. But the V1 does a good job with an audio tone that once you learn, you can tell what is real or not.

KA-Band – That is the upper quality radar that is always a real cop. My Bel told me when KA was used. I think V1 doesn’t really tell you as clearly.

Instant On Radar – Some Radar guns or devices have an instant on/pause option. That makes it undetectable until they use it. That means if you’re the first person to be hit by it, there’s nothing you can do. Your detector won’t give you enough warning. However because radar spams so far (10 miles on the V1) the chances of someone else being hit by instant on and you detecting it are pretty high. I think only one time have I been the first person to be hit by instant on without a warning. And I happened to be going slow enough or the cop wasn’t ready so I got away

Radar Jamming – At various periods there were jammers but once cops switched to guns with so many frequencies it became impossible to jam (unless you’re the military or using their devices). So jamming isn’t really an option. I read the jammers were the size of VCRs and it was pretty hard to explain having one. They were also expensive. They worked by flooding everywhere with radar. So if other people had detectors your jammer was setting those off. And if the cop happened to have a detector, you set them off! Because you can’t jam, you have to rely on detectors and positioning and driving your car to avoid tickets. It’s also illegal to jam radar.

Hiding your Detector – The Valentine 1 offers a conceal kit for $50. I have a display in front of my speedometer and the detector mounted up to the right of the rear view mirror. Since I usually get pulled over at night and the cop usually approaches from the left side, they never see the detector. They’d have to be making out with me by leaning in the car to see the detector. But if they happen to enter from the passenger side, they can easily see it. That happened one time to me. The reason them seeing it is a concern is that they will usually start being mad at you and will almost always give you a ticket or try to stick you with other charges. The reason is they are mad that you’re trying to beat them. There have been a few detectors that offered complete conceal kits with a front and rear grill sensor and a display that is mounted in some hidden way in your dash but typically they’re also crappier than the V1.

What you want to avoid is a detector in the bottom middle of your dash with bright lights that people behind you for miles can see. To avoid that, for starters, you have to direct wire your radar detector. You get the cig wire hanging down sometimes when you take your detector in another car. But for my car, I had my dad direct wire it so the cord isn’t dangling and so that you can hide it better. You can go to some audio store usually to get installations like that. Mines been going strong since 2003.

Illegal Radar Detectors

Check out Rardar laws by State/Canada. I’ve never had to worry about that. You would only have to worry if you took one of those banned areas. That must suck to be them. The cops also have radar detector detectors that they use in those states. So you’ll see things like the V1 or Bel detector blocks against (detector detector x or y). Canada also mostly bans detectors because the cops and governments want their ticket money.

Laser (Lidar)

Lidar is the superior speed detection device but isn’t as common as radar. The problem is it’s more expensive for the guns and you have to be stationary to use them. With Radar they can drive around and shoot it, while Lidar they either have to work in teams with a spotter and a cop that catches people. Or they have to stop and get out or aim it out their car, then drive.

 Laser Jamming

The great thing about lidar is it’s rarity. You don’t see it too often. It looks like now it’s illegal to jam in some states. But good luck figuring out if you’re jamming or not if you hide the jammer properly. I had a jammer in 1999-2003 and it worked flawlessly for jamming. The only problem was that it didn’t have a mute button and was set off by some taillights. So I really hated it and didn’t put it on my new car when i switched. But when I had it, several times they tried to gauge my speed and could not. Where to buy this? I don’t know. There’s so much spam on the internet, it’s hard to tell which is a real working device and what is a placebo. There’s tons of fake devices people sell that do nothing and tons of people fall for them. That makes it dangerous to buy. Your only hope is a review by someone that is a real agency (Car & Driver) or by someone in real life that you can trust.

As the economy continues to suck and cities/states rely on tickets to get their money you’ll start to see lidar more common and cops out there trying to tax you more common. I’ve noticed since 2010, 2011, the cops are out there in force trying to get tickets to earn money.

General Tips for avoiding Tickets

Car Choice. My cop friend tells me I have a peckerwood car. Your choice as to what to drive totally influences how often you might be targeted by cops. Even your car color influences. If you pick a red car or a yellow car, you usually get more tickets. If you do stupid crap to your car like put stickers, wheels, lights, giant wings, etc. The cops will target you. Your ultimate goal with a fast car should be a car that is fast but doesn’t look fast or draw attention. Those cars are called “sleepers.” I’ve almost always had a sleeper. The few times I had a flashy/obvious car, I paid the price. I drove fine for 3 years until I got a red car then got a ticket within the first year. My current car is pretty sleeper except for my muffler and tinted windows. If I didn’t have those, I would be less obvious. But I’m not willing to make the sacrifice of a hotter car or a car that is slower. I did pick the muffler with the least amount of sound though.

Watch for cops – It’s easy to watch for cops and often your main way to avoid them. Their cars are almost always so obvious. It’s only a real challenge at night where they hide behind bushes or bridges or barriers. In that case your only hope is your radar detector, luck, using another car to block you, or your laser jammer. In some states the cops use sleeper cars that are hard to spot. In California the highway patrol uses these white CHiP cars. But they are also easier to spot in the day.

Use other cars. Try to never be a car off on your own, a target. Think a pack of sheep. Move fast between the sheep but don’t be obvious and off on your own where the wolf (Cop) will get you.

Avoid the fast lane when possible – Always try to use the slow lane or middle lanes when you have to. Only use the fast lane when you run out of options and when you can fit within a pack of cars or at least one car ahead of you. So many times (20+) I’ve had a cop come up behind me then grab some next to me, someone that was a bit ahead and so on. I’ve escaped so many tickets because of my great skill of choosing where to hide and go.

Avoid being the missile that worms between cars. You can go fast if there are faster cars out there with you or as long as you’re not the one car worming your way between the cars at a very fast speed. In today’s age it’s harder with cell phones where someone might rat you out or call you a drunk driver to bring the cops out too.

My last ticket in 2005 was because I was going between the cars at 90 mph+ in a very obvious way. The cop had a very hard time catching me and was really pissed when he finally did. He threatened to arrest me and charged me with “unsafe lane change.” But I just went to the judge and said I was guilty and he cut that out and reduced my fine by half. EAT IT CHIP.


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    • Englishman on:
      Why?
      I'm a Brit and I've been saying this for years, now I find a whole website devoted to the subject. I feel vindicated! Having driven quite a lot of miles on the roads of about 28 US states, the moment you get into California everything changes! Anything goes on the roads there, you have to adopt a completely different style of driving just to accommodate their sheer lunacy! It's probably the stress of living in a sate where everyone likes to think they're a hippy when most of them are just a bunch of wage-slaves on the corporate merry-go-round!
    • Cam on:
      Why?
      I was born in Washington. WSP. I lived near Shelton. Near their police academy. They use Highland road to practice on speeders. They lowered the speed limit on the road to write tickets. If California is too lenient Washington is too strict. We moved to California. A much better place to live and drive. Washington is full of vindictive drivers. California is not. If you live in California do as the Romans. We adapted it works.
    • Zach on:
      Vans
      I kinda feel like part of the reason California drivers suck is because they are in such a rush to get where there going they put other people at risk by doing a bunch of risky manouvers. So the guy in the vans an idiot, you know intentionally cutting him off close isn't going to make him not do that shit anymore. If people just learned to let shit go traffick would go faster because there would be less accidents.
    • NoLoveForCali on:
      Why?
      Agreed. Freaking idiots.
    • NoLoveForCali on:
      Why?
      I wish they would leave TX, too. Jerks.
    • Auchoo on:
      Why?
      I know some very sweet people who drive like they just got behind the wheel, or as if they don't understand the laws of motion. I also know some very stressed people who drive like fools. I likely drive too fast at times, but I don't tailgate or weave or cut people off. I go with the general flow of traffic. I get angry when speed demons drive in the slow lanes and when slugs drive in the fast lane. Why? They're creating a perfect storm for accidents. We have no CHP. Or it seems that way. I can drive for months, for hundreds, thousands of miles, and NEVER see a CHP. Assanine law makers REFUSE to send us the money to hire more CHP. It's been an issue for decades. As the bureaucrats allow more illegals and unskilled drivers to drive on our roads and highways, and fail to deal with those who text and drive, and fail to police our hwys, we will continue to have sucky, dangerous roads, and people will continue to be killed on the hwy. Want change? Vote out the current law makers. The are blind bats.
    • dresden on:
      Why?
      If you want to go slow. Law states slow traffic to move to the right. No one owns the road. Also be mindful some people may have emergencies like a pregnancy.
    • dresden on:
      Why?
      So you admit you turn in front of people going the speed limit and force them to slow down? Sounds like your just another control freak who just has to mess with traffic. I haven't seen you cite any creative ideas to help everyone win. Here's an idea to help. Wait until its reasonably clear before you pull in front of people as tye dmv book states in many states. I even cited above a law too. You haven't cited anytbing. Sounds like your also a problem too. Demon speeders and control freaks who want to pull in front of people and stay in the left most lane for "freeway changes". You know they usually have a few lanes for you to be in (if you read the arrows on the sign) and there are usually two or three. So you can still pick a right slower lane even for freeway changes. So I think your just making excuses like a typical Californian to just mess with people and justify it. Your just as much a bully and just as much ignorant of the law. I am not siding with the author, but I also think you help continue to problems. I hope that on day when you have an emergency that someone goes slow in front of you and just holds you up so hopefully on the off chance you may gain self awareness that there's more than just you in the world. Selfishness has little to no value in society. Which means selfish boisterous and rude people like you are a cancer to society.
    • dresden on:
      Why?
      Remember that when you have an emergency that involves a family members life. Or when someone fails to yeild and holds up the ambulance. I Can't wait till I move to Idaho (they don't drive fast there), because they follow proper lane laws. If you think you own the road because because r vindicated in your opinion that your driving slower than the speed limit. Your no better than the demon speeders and your judgement is not only a futile double standard argument, it's also just as disrespectful to others just as much as driving like a dope fuel dragster jerk. So get see self awareness or just expect people like me to just challenge the weak foundation of your self righteousness with grandiose feeling of highfalutin narcissistic and just as selfish thinking. Make your freeway change and afterwords get over to the slow lane where the law states you belong. Dmv book, read it son.
    • dresden on:
      Why?
      I was born and raised in Cali, and have moved to and from Cali. Served my country and went to Korea (2014), no thanks needed. Before I lived in Idaho I enjoyed Cali (due to the tropical area we lived). After I came back to Cali, I just don't get it anymore. As a native, I wonder how they learned these balehaviours and how I missed them. Every time we drive we always have to drive defensively. Is there something in the water? Is it cause they are spoiled and pampered princesses? Quite a few of you hit the nail on the head. Do me a favor, spread the word about this. Perhaps years and years f a propeganda campaign on poor Cali driving may help brainwash them to want to change it to fight the offensive label. Use social media to politicize it until they are tired of hearing it and change. Usually if you label a group of people, they fight to change it. Look at every race in history and their struggles.

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    I’ve driven in California since 1991. I’ve spent many trips running up and down the state as well as driving in many other states. After all of this driving, I became fed up with how bad California drivers on. I wanted to point out what they do to either help change a few drivers or at least entertain the rest of the world with Californian’s horrible driving.

    I’m located in Orange County in a couple of the richest areas. I see every type of car that is out there in this area. It’s like a car show. Going to a car show isn’t exciting anymore because you see most of the cars driving around anyway. I also work at a place where people buy all the different types of cars. We have Lamborghinis, Ferraris, Lotus, etc. So you can even see a lot of the cars in the work parking lot.

    Disclaimer: You’re on your own with these tips. They are not the official law and in no way represent what you should be doing should a cop pull you over.

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